Episode 76: Summit Fever and Close Calls – Knowing When to Turn Back in the Mountains with Stefan Gruber


 

What happens when you build your work around the life you want to live?

In this episode of On Adventure, Josh talks with Stefan Gruber, a climber, photographer, traveler, and customer success professional at Levitate. Stefan shares how remote work and his wife Sarah’s career as a travel nurse have helped them create a life centered on movement, creativity, and outdoor adventure.

They discuss climbing, film photography, international travel, dangerous moments in the mountains, and the judgment required to turn around when conditions are not right. At the heart of the conversation is a simple message: meaningful experiences should not always be postponed.

In This Episode

  • Building a mobile life around remote work and travel nursing

  • Why climbing creates focus, presence, and flow

  • Traveling through the American West, Poland, and Nepal

  • The appeal of film photography and printed images

  • Balancing documentation with being present

  • Avalanche terrain, exposed climbing, and failed summit attempts

  • Summit fever, risk assessment, and the limits of luck

  • Future goals, including the Grand Teton and Colorado fourteeners

  • Why Stefan believes in doing things while you still can

Episode Chapters

00:00 – Colorado Springs and life on the move
Josh and Stefan discuss Colorado Springs, choosing temporary homes, and the possibility of eventually buying land in Colorado or Montana.

11:00 – Stefan’s career and lifestyle
Stefan explains how he moved from a long corporate commute into remote work and began traveling with Sarah during her nursing assignments.

17:30 – Climbing, travel, and flow
Stefan reflects on his Polish heritage, his early interest in travel, and the sense of complete focus he finds while climbing.

20:00 – Designing work around life
The conversation explores the freedom and tradeoffs of building a career that supports travel, adventure, and flexibility.

24:00 – Poland and international travel
Stefan describes Poland’s cities, mountains, coastline, affordability, and cultural growth, along with other memorable travel experiences.

36:30 – Photography and creative ambitions
Stefan explains how photography connects his travels and outdoor life. He also shares ideas for creating a travel channel with Sarah.

41:00 – Film, digital photography, and presence
They discuss the visual character of film, the value of printed photographs, and the tension between capturing an experience and fully living it.

51:00 – Risk, fear, and turning around
Stefan recounts dangerous moments involving avalanche terrain, exposed climbing, wildfire smoke, and two unsuccessful attempts on the Grand Teton.

57:00 – Summit fever and the limits of luck
The conversation turns to humility, decision-making, and why surviving a poor choice does not make it a good one.

1:04:00 – Survival psychology and photography advice
Stefan recommends Deep Survival by Laurence Gonzales and encourages new photographers to begin with whatever camera they can access.

1:11:00 – Favorite mountains and future goals
Stefan talks about the Tetons, Annapurna Base Camp, Denali, Everest, and his goals for the rest of 2026.

1:18:00 – Do it while you can
Stefan closes with his belief that health, time, and opportunity are uncertain, so meaningful goals should not always be saved for later.

Memorable Quotes

“Sometimes those limits find you.”

“There’s a certain store of luck, and it will run out eventually.”

“If it doesn’t happen today, it can happen another day.”

“Do it while you can.”

Key Takeaways

Build work around what matters.
Flexible work can create more room for travel, relationships, creativity, and meaningful experiences.

Turning around is not failure.
Good judgment sometimes means abandoning a climb or summit and returning under better conditions.

Luck is not a strategy.
A successful outcome does not automatically mean the decision behind it was wise.

Give photographs a life beyond the screen.
Printing images or shooting film can make photography feel more intentional and lasting.

Do not save everything for someday.
Adventure can be a major expedition or a small personal goal. The important step is beginning while the opportunity still exists.

Resources Mentioned

  • Deep Survival: Who Lives, Who Dies, and Why by Laurence Gonzales

  • Stefan’s Instagram page

About Stefan Gruber

Stefan Gruber is a climber, traveler, and photographer who works remotely for Levitate. He and his wife Sarah travel throughout the United States for her nursing assignments while pursuing hiking, climbing, skiing, photography, and international travel.

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Episode 75: Hard Things Are Worth Doing with Justin Smith


Episode Description
What happens in the dark hours before sunrise on day two, when your body starts asking
what exactly you are doing out here?
 
Justin Smith teaches high school in Santa Cruz, California, where his classroom is a working 
bike shop. By day he runs a Career Tech Ed program through Project Bike Tech, teaching
teenagers to fix bikes, build resumes, and solve real problems with their own hands. On his own
time, he is an ultra-endurance athlete who has finished the 2,700-mile Tour Divide from Banff,
Canada to the Mexico border in 16 days straight, raced the Fiji Eco-Challenge with Team Curl,
competed at the Ironman World Championships in Kona, and returned three times to a 60-hour
swimrun across the Swedish archipelago.
 
In this conversation, Justin takes Josh inside the pain cave and the mental game of multi-day 
racing: the dark hours before sunrise on day two, the difference between the front country and
the back country, and why the body only truly comes alive on the second night. He explains how
a psychology degree and Outward Bound canoe trips led to a life built around adventure, why he
and his wife once lived in a tiny house they built on television, and how putting himself in hard
situations makes him a better dad, husband, and teacher.
 
They also talk about the people. From trail angels on the Pacific Crest Trail to a septic-truck 
driver in Southern California, Justin keeps returning to the connections that outlast the miles.
Most of all, this is a story about a simple idea he repeats to his students and his daughter: a ship
is safe in its harbor, but that is not what ships were built for, and the more you do hard things,
the more you realize hard things are worth doing.
 
Episode Highlights
• 00:00 Meet Justin Smith: high school teacher by day, ultra-endurance adventurer on
his own time
• 02:00 The bike shop classroom and the Project Bike Tech program in Santa Cruz
• 08:00 Building a tiny house on the TV show Tiny House Nation
• 14:00 The permission slip to not conform, and choosing the hard path on purpose
• 16:00 Comfort is what gets sold to us, but hard things are what move the needle
• 19:00 Meeting Roy Malone at the 2019 Fiji Eco-Challenge with Team Curl
• 20:00 The One Water swimrun across the Swedish archipelago, attempted three times
• 26:00 The Stagecoach 400 and sleeping on McDonald’s cardboard with no sleeping bag
• 31:00 Courtney Dauwalter’s pain cave, and learning to redecorate it instead of fighting it
• 38:00 Finishing the 2,700-mile Tour Divide in 16 days, from Banff to the Mexico border
• 43:00 The Pacific Crest Trail, meeting his wife, and hiking through grief in 2009
• 55:00 Orienteering, gut instinct, and trusting intuition when the map runs out
• 01:04:00 A ship is safe in its harbor, but that is not what ships are built for
• 01:12:00 The mantra: if you can’t get out of it, get into it, and find a way

About Justin Smith

Justin Smith is a high school Career Tech Ed teacher in Santa Cruz, California, where he leads a
bike shop program through Project Bike Tech, and a lifelong endurance athlete and adventurer.
A former NCAA swimmer, he has finished the Tour Divide, raced the Fiji Eco-Challenge and
multiple expedition-style adventure races, competed at the Ironman World Championships in
Kona, and thru-hiked the Pacific Crest Trail. He lives in Santa Cruz with his wife and daughter,
with whom he shares most of his adventures.

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On Adventure: What We Carry

Lessons from Gil Jackson and Aaron Saft

Every long walk is an exercise in deciding what matters enough to carry. Ounces add up over thousands of miles, and eventually you strip down to what is essential. In our two most recent On Adventure episodes, I sat down with a Cherokee language educator and an ultrarunning coach whose lives revolve around a version of that same question: out of everything you could hold onto, what is worth the weight?

Gil: Walking Home

Gil Jackson grew up in the Snowbird community of western North Carolina in the 1950s – no television, no car, one light bulb per room, and a tight-knit Cherokee community where everyone showed up when a neighbor needed help. When he left for college in Georgia, his mother laughed and said, “You’ll be back.” He was gone almost 40 years, then built a house 200 yards upstream from where he was born and poured himself into the work that now defines his days: keeping the Cherokee language alive.

Only about 130 fluent speakers remain, and they are losing roughly two and a half a month. Gil calls it the eleventh hour. He thru-hiked the Appalachian Trail in 2014 to experience some portion of what his ancestors endured on the Trail of Tears, and conceded the biggest difference: he got to come home. But what moved me most is what Gil does off the trail. He spends his days locating sacred Cherokee sites in the mountains and taking younger people to them, so the stories and routes are not lost. The elders who know where these places are can no longer reach them. The young people who can make the climb do not know they exist. Gil is the bridge.

Aaron: What Do You Need?

Aaron Saft has finished Hardrock, UTMB, Leadville, Western States, and the Bigfoot 200. But the moment from our conversation that will stay with me had nothing to do with a finish line. It was his description of what happens when you come across another runner sitting on a rock in the middle of a 100-miler. You do not ask, “How are you?” You can see how they are. You ask, “What do you need?” And then you give whatever you have. Aaron said it is not a decision people make in the moment. It is who the sport turns you into.

He pins an upside-down photo of his family to his quad so that when he looks down at mile 80, he sees his wife and kids looking back at him. His son now runs for the University of Portland. His daughter, a high school freshman, just competed at the state championships. When other parents ask how he got his kids into running, his answer is simple: he did not. He just showed them what was possible. He even rebranded his coaching business – from “MR Running Pains” to “Running is Life” – because the words we wrap around our work shape the experience. Training is 99 percent process and 1 percent celebration. If you cannot find joy in the process, you are missing the whole thing.

The Same Trail

Gil is preserving a language and the sacred geography of his people. Aaron is building runners who understand not just what to do but why. Both told me the point was never the miles. The miles were just the means of discovering what mattered enough to hold onto. Not every adventure happens on a trail. Some happen when you ask someone what they need and mean it, or when you pass along something that would disappear if you kept it to yourself.

Stay safe and stay on adventure.

— Josh

You can listen to the full conversations with Gil Jackson and Aaron Saft on the On Adventure podcast, available wherever you get your podcasts.

Q3 Letter to Clients

The Economic Landscape

If Q1 felt like driving into a headwind, Q2 was the stretch of open road that followed. Markets staged a powerful recovery, more than erasing the losses that rattled investors earlier in the year. For the quarter, the S&P 500 gained roughly 14.5%, the Nasdaq Composite surged approximately 19.7%, and the Dow advanced around 11%. Small-cap stocks were the quiet standout: the Russell 2000 returned approximately 20.8%, capping its strongest first half since 1991.

Importantly, the rally was not built on hype alone. S&P 500 companies reported first-quarter earnings growth of about 28% on revenue growth of nearly 12%, and market leadership broadened meaningfully, with Consumer Staples, Real Estate, and Healthcare joining the conversation by late June. Inflation, however, remains elevated. The Consumer Price Index hit 4.2% on an annual basis in May – its highest since April 2023 – driven largely by energy costs. Core CPI, which strips out food and energy, was more encouraging at just 0.2% for the month, suggesting the broader pass-through from the energy shock is still limited.

Making Sense of the Headlines

The conflict between the U.S., Israel, and Iran has been the dominant macro story of 2026, disrupting roughly one-fifth of the global oil trade and pushing average gasoline prices as high as $4.56 per gallon in May. By mid-June the picture shifted: the U.S. and Iran signed a memorandum of understanding on June 17 to extend the ceasefire and begin reopening the Strait of Hormuz, sending crude oil down roughly 20% from its 2026 peaks. That is real progress, though the situation remains fluid and a permanent deal is still being negotiated.

On the monetary policy front, the Federal Reserve held interest rates steady at 3.50%–3.75% at its June meeting – the fourth consecutive hold and the first under new Chair Kevin Warsh. The updated dot plot told the bigger story: half the committee now envisions at least one rate hike before year-end, a sharp reversal from March projections that still implied a cut. The Fed also raised its 2026 inflation forecast to 3.6%, up from 2.7% just three months earlier. The message is clear: the central bank is not in a hurry to ease.

Staying the Course in a Noisy World

Wars, inflation, and Federal Reserve posturing are not comfortable topics. We know the headlines can feel heavy. But if the first half of 2026 has reinforced anything, it is that markets reward patience more than prediction.

In late March, after the worst of the oil-shock selloff, the S&P 500 had pulled back to around 6,344 – roughly 7% below where it began the year. Investors who stepped to the sidelines would have missed one of the sharpest quarterly recoveries in recent memory. Those who stayed invested, rebalanced, and leaned into the discomfort were rewarded with a double-digit rebound in a matter of weeks.

This is not a new lesson, but it is one worth revisiting in every market cycle. Volatility is not risk. Volatility is the price of admission to long-term compounding. Risk is permanently impairing your capital by abandoning your plan at the wrong time. We continue to believe that a disciplined, diversified approach – across asset classes, market capitalizations, and geographies – is the most reliable way to build and protect wealth over time.

Protecting What You Have Built

So much of our work together focuses on growing and investing your wealth. But the plans we build only work if the foundation underneath them is solid – and that brings us to a topic that does not get enough attention: your insurance coverage.

Summer is a natural time to review your property, auto, and umbrella policies. Home values, replacement costs, and liability exposures can shift meaningfully from year to year, and your coverage should reflect the life you are living today, not the life you were living when you last renewed. If you have not looked at your policies recently – or if you have questions about whether your umbrella coverage is adequate given changes to your net worth, real estate, or vehicle situation – we would love to help. Just reach out and we will walk through it together.

As always, we are grateful for the trust you place in our team. Half the year is in the books. There will be more headlines, more volatility, and more reasons to worry between now and December. But there will also be more reasons to be thankful – for the progress we have made together, for the plans we have built, and for the lives those plans are designed to support. We hope your summer is full of rest, adventure, and time with the people who matter most.