Episode 73: Running is Life with Aaron Saft

As a species, we only do things if there is truly a reward on the other side. So when the reward is pain, struggle, suffering, and danger, what exactly keeps driving us back out the door?

Aaron Saft has spent his life chasing that answer. A five-time ACC champion at NC State whose teams finished third at the NCAA Cross Country Championships, he traded the track for the trail, ran his first 100-miler in 2016, and has since become one of the most experienced ultrarunners in the Southeast. Today he coaches roughly 75 athletes full-time through his Running Is Life platform and podcast, a business he deliberately renamed from “MR Running Pains” because he believes running, done right, should bring as much joy as it does suffering.

His résumé reads like a bucket list for the sport: the Grand Slam of Ultrarunning, the Bigfoot 200, Hardrock, Leadville, UTMB, and the Tor des Géants in the Italian Alps, where a fall, a head injury, and a watchful medic ended his race. He has finished a 100-miler while spiking a 100-degree fever, outrun a mother grizzly and her cubs in Canada, and learned the hard way when to push and when to stop. But ask Aaron why he does it and he won’t point to a trophy. He’ll point to the upside-down photo of his family pinned to his quad, the one he looks down at in the darkest miles to remember who he is suffering for.

In this conversation, Josh and Aaron trace the many forms the “why” can take. They dig into presence, learning to run a hundred miles one mile at a time, and the moment an empty drop bag at Leadville taught Aaron everything he needed to know about the generosity of the trail community. They talk about the one question you never ask an ultrarunner, the evolution from chasing a place to simply chasing the finish line, why legacy is something children catch rather than something we teach, and how an abundance mindset shaped the coaching practice he built from the ground up. It is a conversation for every everyday explorer about doing the hard things that make life fuller, right now, not someday.

•     06:00  The Terry Foxworth connection and the heart of On Adventure: the reward beneath the suffering

•     15:00  Running Is Life: why words matter and reframing the sport away from pain

•     19:00  From reluctant soccer goalie to cross country, and the high school coach who changed his life

•     24:00  The NC State years: five ACC titles, redshirting, and racing the steeplechase

•     28:00  Virginia, mentor Ben Thomas, the run shop, and the move into trail running

•     33:00  First 50K to first 100: the long adventure runs that planted the seed

•     37:00  What 100 and 200 miles teach you that a marathon never will: presence, mile by mile

•     38:00  Finishing the Grand Slam and the Wasatch 100 with a 100-degree fever

•     44:00  When to keep going and when to stop: the Tor des Géants head injury and a fevered DNF on Mount Mitchell

•     52:00  Intrinsic motivation, the family photo on the quad, and the “debt” a race director taught him about

•     55:00  The empty drop bag at Leadville and the generosity of the trail community

•     59:00  “What do you need?” The only question you ask an ultrarunner

•     01:01:00  Adventure versus performance, “level 49,” and racing for the finish line instead of the place

•     01:08:00  Legacy as something caught, not taught, and raising two runners of his own

•     01:13:00  From brick-and-mortar to online coaching: 75 athletes, an abundance mindset, and a teaching heart

•     01:25:00  Rapid fire: the grizzly bear, the Altra Lone Peak 9+, best and worst races, and five 100-milers in one summer

Here are the people, places, and resources Aaron mentioned in this episode:

•     Running Is Life, Aaron’s coaching practice and podcast

•     Training for the Uphill Athlete, the team’s recent book study and a foundational training manual

•     Races referenced: Grindstone 100, Mountain Masochist 50, Hellgate 100K, Western States, Leadville 100, Wasatch 100, Hardrock 100, UTMB, the Bigfoot 200, the Tor des Géants, the Cocodona 250, and the Ouray 100

•     Gear note: the Altra Lone Peak 9+ with the Vibram outsole

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